Comments on: Proof of Massive ACGME Duty Hour Standard Violations http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/ A Cynical Look At Medical School and Medical Training Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:55:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Martin H. Fischer http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/comment-page-1/#comment-41436 Martin H. Fischer Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:07:22 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/#comment-41436 "A doctor must work eighteen hours a day and seven days a week. If you cannot console yourself to this, get out of the profession." “A doctor must work eighteen hours a day and seven days a week. If you cannot console yourself to this, get out of the profession.”

]]> By: REO SpeedDealer http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/comment-page-1/#comment-1329 REO SpeedDealer Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:34:07 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/#comment-1329 During my surgery internship, we reported our work hours to the department secretary. I was hauled into the Program Director's office where he and the Chairman of the department ORDERED me to lie on my hours report. I was to write no more than 80 hours on my timesheet. Apparently all the other interns were already doing that so I was the outlier who was actually telling the truth. I participated in the study you quote and I averaged 105-110 hours per week for 50 out of 52 of those weeks. The other 2 were vacation. During my surgery internship, we reported our work hours to the department secretary. I was hauled into the Program Director’s office where he and the Chairman of the department ORDERED me to lie on my hours report. I was to write no more than 80 hours on my timesheet. Apparently all the other interns were already doing that so I was the outlier who was actually telling the truth. I participated in the study you quote and I averaged 105-110 hours per week for 50 out of 52 of those weeks. The other 2 were vacation.

]]> By: Alouette http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/comment-page-1/#comment-686 Alouette Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:14:48 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/#comment-686 With answers like what they are getting, they should dig further. Who provides a solution? Protesting med students, some MBA who has a panic attack seeing that you are out of compliance? Once someone brings the to the attention of a supervisor or administrator, they become liable. Some lawyer or budding politician needs to jump on this to make a name for his or her self. Oh-- and since we have a shortage of MDs in the US, and from what you say here about people being stretched beyond normal working conditions, why aren't there more doctor slots? Med school attacks the best-- excuse me, ATTRACTS the best-- it's not like each school admitting ten more students will be scraping the bottom of the intellectual barrel. With answers like what they are getting, they should dig further.

Who provides a solution? Protesting med students, some MBA who has a panic attack seeing that you are out of compliance? Once someone brings the to the attention of a supervisor or administrator, they become liable.

Some lawyer or budding politician needs to jump on this to make a name for his or her self.

Oh– and since we have a shortage of MDs in the US, and from what you say here about people being stretched beyond normal working conditions, why aren’t there more doctor slots? Med school attacks the best– excuse me, ATTRACTS the best– it’s not like each school admitting ten more students will be scraping the bottom of the intellectual barrel.

]]> By: Hoover http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/comment-page-1/#comment-685 Hoover Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:39:01 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/#comment-685 Probably so Zuwie. The study didn't state which specialties were polled. With "ambulatory" and "inpatient" services, though, it sounds as if the bulk of the data came from medicine rotations. Probably so Zuwie. The study didn’t state which specialties were polled. With “ambulatory” and “inpatient” services, though, it sounds as if the bulk of the data came from medicine rotations.

]]> By: Zuwie http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/comment-page-1/#comment-684 Zuwie Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:11:28 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/11/proof-of-massive-acgme-duty-hour-standard-violations/#comment-684 I bet these violations are grossly underreported and the real percentage is much higher. For surgery, it's probably more than 95 percent. I bet these violations are grossly underreported and the real percentage is much higher. For surgery, it’s probably more than 95 percent.

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