Comments on: Fun With Numbers http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/ A Cynical Look At Medical School and Medical Training Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:51:19 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Med School Hell » 56 Hour Work Week Is On The Horizon http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-18269 Med School Hell » 56 Hour Work Week Is On The Horizon Fri, 23 May 2008 03:53:05 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/#comment-18269 [...] coming out into the light sooner rather than later. No matter how you slice it, “only” 80 hours per week is the biggest joke I’ve seen in a long damn [...] [...] coming out into the light sooner rather than later. No matter how you slice it, “only” 80 hours per week is the biggest joke I’ve seen in a long damn [...]

]]> By: Attending, MD, JD http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-6739 Attending, MD, JD Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:06:10 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/#comment-6739 Excellent. Well said. Excellent. Well said.

]]> By: Hoover http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-820 Hoover Mon, 23 Apr 2007 05:44:40 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/#comment-820 Most of the physicians that I had contact with as a student were those who either failed at private practice or would fail at private practice should they attempt it. I can't understand why people so smart choose to act so high and mighty and completely put off the colleagues that they are working with. You would think that these people would learn basic communication skills at some point during their lives (if not during medical training), but it doesn't seem to be the case. It's a shame when the only working environments that they can successfully deal with are the academic ones. I'm serious, private practices would chew them up and spit them out within a week. I'm not saying all attendings are like this, but this is the vibe that I got while in medical school. Most of the physicians that I had contact with as a student were those who either failed at private practice or would fail at private practice should they attempt it. I can’t understand why people so smart choose to act so high and mighty and completely put off the colleagues that they are working with. You would think that these people would learn basic communication skills at some point during their lives (if not during medical training), but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

It’s a shame when the only working environments that they can successfully deal with are the academic ones. I’m serious, private practices would chew them up and spit them out within a week.

I’m not saying all attendings are like this, but this is the vibe that I got while in medical school.

]]> By: Someonetc http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-819 Someonetc Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:15:14 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/#comment-819 hoover, your experience is one reason people don't want to stay in academics. problem is we need good people to stay inorder to keep the knowledge flow. since the previous benefits have gone, you get people on ego trips who need it like they need fancy sports car, the people who couldn't make it in private, and the few who care. as midwife suggested it is hard to keep good people which leaves less to teach. the physician scientist is becoming an endangered species. for me, i like learning. my residents make every case interesting and i make enough that my family is very happy. i could go back to private arena but i got tired of chasing the dollar. on the surgery side, we are well compensated for our work. but i can't purchase a mri scanner, and that's a fricken money generator. hoover,

your experience is one reason people don’t want to stay in academics. problem is we need good people to stay inorder to keep the knowledge flow.

since the previous benefits have gone, you get people on ego trips who need it like they need fancy sports car, the people who couldn’t make it in private, and the few who care. as midwife suggested it is hard to keep good people which leaves less to teach. the physician scientist is becoming an endangered species. for me, i like learning. my residents make every case interesting and i make enough that my family is very happy. i could go back to private arena but i got tired of chasing the dollar.

on the surgery side, we are well compensated for our work. but i can’t purchase a mri scanner, and that’s a fricken money generator.

]]> By: Midwife with a knife http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-817 Midwife with a knife Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:45:13 +0000 http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/04/17/fun-with-numbers/#comment-817 Hoover: Yeah. It used to be that academic docs got paid less, but also had more flexibility and less work. I love teaching, and sometimes I think I might even like research (which is good, I have to do 18 months of it in my program!), and I used to have this vision of myself as the physician/scientist/teacher. Now, after having seen how viscious and underhanded the politics are among the attendings in my fellowship (we've actually lost >1/2 of our attendings and been unable to replace them), I have no desire to do that. I'll just find a nice perinatology private practice where people are nice. All I want is to work with nice people who do their jobs. Hoover: Yeah. It used to be that academic docs got paid less, but also had more flexibility and less work. I love teaching, and sometimes I think I might even like research (which is good, I have to do 18 months of it in my program!), and I used to have this vision of myself as the physician/scientist/teacher. Now, after having seen how viscious and underhanded the politics are among the attendings in my fellowship (we’ve actually lost >1/2 of our attendings and been unable to replace them), I have no desire to do that. I’ll just find a nice perinatology private practice where people are nice. All I want is to work with nice people who do their jobs.

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