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	<title>Comments on: Welcome To Hell</title>
	<link>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/</link>
	<description>A Cynical Look At Medical School and Medical Training</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Somz</title>
		<link>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/#comment-23465</link>
		<dc:creator>Somz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zuwie, the author of the article I mentioned wrote another article that addresses your question about "who would want an EVD placed by someone making a superhuman effort to stay awake".

http://www.acgme.org/acWebsite/bulletin/bulletin02_04.pdf

(last article in the PDF)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zuwie, the author of the article I mentioned wrote another article that addresses your question about &#8220;who would want an EVD placed by someone making a superhuman effort to stay awake&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.acgme.org/acWebsite/bulletin/bulletin02_04.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.acgme.org/acWebsite/bulletin/bulletin02_04.pdf</a></p>
<p>(last article in the PDF)</p>
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		<title>By: Somz</title>
		<link>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/#comment-23457</link>
		<dc:creator>Somz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/#comment-23457</guid>
		<description>An excellent point, Zuwie. Surgeons in particular still hold onto the idea that there is a "calling" to be a doctor and a sense of invulnerability with it. The new generation tends to have less of it, but it does persist. I remember talking to a surgery resident friend about the proposed 56 hour work week, and he balked at the notion because it would make surgery "like a regular person job". Wait, surgeons are regular people (with normal sleep requirements)? What a crazy idea!

I think part of the reason that so many physicians are disgruntled with the current state of the profession is the doctor-unfriendly environment. Paperwork, litigation, medical student debt, resident work hours, etc. Unfortunately, I believe it is largely due to physicians' continued self sabotage. Doctors are (and have been) trained with the idealistic mentality that health care is more than a service and that there is some sacred ideal behind it. Thus, they currently push themselves to the limit in training and practice to take care of patients that often refuse to take responsibility of their own health and sue at the drop of a hat. While the ideal may have been true decades ago, the truth is that the medical field in this country is currently a business that makes profit for insurance companies at the expensive of the doctor. It is the failure of doctors to protest against these things and defend themselves that has allowed the situation to get so bad.

Wow, that's probably the most cynical bit I've ever wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent point, Zuwie. Surgeons in particular still hold onto the idea that there is a &#8220;calling&#8221; to be a doctor and a sense of invulnerability with it. The new generation tends to have less of it, but it does persist. I remember talking to a surgery resident friend about the proposed 56 hour work week, and he balked at the notion because it would make surgery &#8220;like a regular person job&#8221;. Wait, surgeons are regular people (with normal sleep requirements)? What a crazy idea!</p>
<p>I think part of the reason that so many physicians are disgruntled with the current state of the profession is the doctor-unfriendly environment. Paperwork, litigation, medical student debt, resident work hours, etc. Unfortunately, I believe it is largely due to physicians&#8217; continued self sabotage. Doctors are (and have been) trained with the idealistic mentality that health care is more than a service and that there is some sacred ideal behind it. Thus, they currently push themselves to the limit in training and practice to take care of patients that often refuse to take responsibility of their own health and sue at the drop of a hat. While the ideal may have been true decades ago, the truth is that the medical field in this country is currently a business that makes profit for insurance companies at the expensive of the doctor. It is the failure of doctors to protest against these things and defend themselves that has allowed the situation to get so bad.</p>
<p>Wow, that&#8217;s probably the most cynical bit I&#8217;ve ever wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuwie</title>
		<link>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/#comment-23443</link>
		<dc:creator>Zuwie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/#comment-23443</guid>
		<description>Somz, thanks for the neurosurgery article. I feel like I need to comment on some parts of it:

"...you feel the “creeping chill” of sleep deprivation, that unshakable sense that you’re cold and slowing down and you’re making a superhuman effort to keep your eyes open and stay on task...

...you just want to stop, lie down, and go to sleep (or maybe just die).
But you can’t because the patient you just admitted with traumatic intracerebral contusions needs an EVD and if you don’t place it, that patient will herniate and die..."

Now, if you were that patient with traumatic intracerebral contusions, would you like an EVD to be placed on you by a person who makes superhuman effort to stay awake? Would you like to be in a plane flown by a pilot who makes superhuman effort to stay awake?
And the worst thing is, the person who wrote that article doesn't see the irony of it. 

Now, pathology is by no means a walk in a park. You need to know a lot and make a decision that creates a big difference in a patient's life. What I appreciate  in pathology, however, is the fact that you always take your time to make a diagnosis, you are never pressured and you always have your collegues to consult if you are not sure. 

Apparently, in neurosurgery you need to abandon your humanity and become some kind of superhero. The trouble is, no matter how qualified you are, you are still human and have limitations. I'm sure that once surgeons realize that and become more humble, all these preventable medical errors (and there are as many as 100000 per year) will go down precipitously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somz, thanks for the neurosurgery article. I feel like I need to comment on some parts of it:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;you feel the “creeping chill” of sleep deprivation, that unshakable sense that you’re cold and slowing down and you’re making a superhuman effort to keep your eyes open and stay on task&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;you just want to stop, lie down, and go to sleep (or maybe just die).<br />
But you can’t because the patient you just admitted with traumatic intracerebral contusions needs an EVD and if you don’t place it, that patient will herniate and die&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, if you were that patient with traumatic intracerebral contusions, would you like an EVD to be placed on you by a person who makes superhuman effort to stay awake? Would you like to be in a plane flown by a pilot who makes superhuman effort to stay awake?<br />
And the worst thing is, the person who wrote that article doesn&#8217;t see the irony of it. </p>
<p>Now, pathology is by no means a walk in a park. You need to know a lot and make a decision that creates a big difference in a patient&#8217;s life. What I appreciate  in pathology, however, is the fact that you always take your time to make a diagnosis, you are never pressured and you always have your collegues to consult if you are not sure. </p>
<p>Apparently, in neurosurgery you need to abandon your humanity and become some kind of superhero. The trouble is, no matter how qualified you are, you are still human and have limitations. I&#8217;m sure that once surgeons realize that and become more humble, all these preventable medical errors (and there are as many as 100000 per year) will go down precipitously.</p>
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		<title>By: talc</title>
		<link>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/#comment-23406</link>
		<dc:creator>talc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/#comment-23406</guid>
		<description>agreed. "one man's hell..." exactly. i'm just glad everyone else's hell isn't mine :)

i've never heard any cases or read any reports about an increased risk of developing any form of cancer as a pathologist, though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed. &#8220;one man&#8217;s hell&#8230;&#8221; exactly. i&#8217;m just glad everyone else&#8217;s hell isn&#8217;t mine <img src='http://www.medschoolhell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>i&#8217;ve never heard any cases or read any reports about an increased risk of developing any form of cancer as a pathologist, though</p>
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		<title>By: namez</title>
		<link>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/#comment-23398</link>
		<dc:creator>namez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/07/01/welcome-to-hell/#comment-23398</guid>
		<description>Pathologists are also exposed to sh*tloads of carcinogens and other toxins on a daily basis.

Most people consider patient contact to be a plus.  William Carlos Williams wouldn't be a famous writer if he didn't have his patients to be inspired by.

It depends on your perspective.  One man's hell...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathologists are also exposed to sh*tloads of carcinogens and other toxins on a daily basis.</p>
<p>Most people consider patient contact to be a plus.  William Carlos Williams wouldn&#8217;t be a famous writer if he didn&#8217;t have his patients to be inspired by.</p>
<p>It depends on your perspective.  One man&#8217;s hell&#8230;</p>
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