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	<title>Comments on: Generational Differences and Medical Training</title>
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	<description>A Cynical Look At Medical School and Medical Training</description>
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		<title>By: Hypnosis Training</title>
		<link>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/09/25/generational-differences-and-medical-training/comment-page-1/#comment-80716</link>
		<dc:creator>Hypnosis Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!! Thanks for sharing such an wonderful information ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!! Thanks for sharing such an wonderful information &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/09/25/generational-differences-and-medical-training/comment-page-1/#comment-28317</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deaner said, &quot;The new generation will NOT tolerate mistreatment. It seems this is a lost concept on older generations who just sucked it up and kissed ass to get through the grueling time that is medical school. But there was more to look forward to after they got through it: Good pay, societal respect, practicing evidence-based medicine without always thinking about CYA.&quot;

Well put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deaner said, &#8220;The new generation will NOT tolerate mistreatment. It seems this is a lost concept on older generations who just sucked it up and kissed ass to get through the grueling time that is medical school. But there was more to look forward to after they got through it: Good pay, societal respect, practicing evidence-based medicine without always thinking about CYA.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well put.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.medschoolhell.com/2008/09/25/generational-differences-and-medical-training/comment-page-1/#comment-28316</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another suggestion (I&#039;m an M2)...

Make all clinical rotations optional.

Less than 3% of my class goes into OB/GYN.  Yet we all have to suffer through it.  Why?  To expose us to a field that we have no interest in?  50,000 dollars for a glorified extended career day?  

The days of a physician being able to practice all aspects of medicine are long gone.  This system is archaic.  The quicker we get physicians learning what they need to be learning the more productive they will be in society and the less painful it will be for the students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another suggestion (I&#8217;m an M2)&#8230;</p>
<p>Make all clinical rotations optional.</p>
<p>Less than 3% of my class goes into OB/GYN.  Yet we all have to suffer through it.  Why?  To expose us to a field that we have no interest in?  50,000 dollars for a glorified extended career day?  </p>
<p>The days of a physician being able to practice all aspects of medicine are long gone.  This system is archaic.  The quicker we get physicians learning what they need to be learning the more productive they will be in society and the less painful it will be for the students.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a simple thing that would make medical education better...

Get rid of the first two years.

My classrooms are empty.  Everybody just listens to the lectures and reads review books.  A good Kaplan course would teach me more than most of my professors and cost way less.  Why pay tens of thousands of dollars for this?  

Solution:
1.) Accepted to medical school.
2.) One or Two years to study for USMLE.
3.) When you pass the step, you begin your clinical training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a simple thing that would make medical education better&#8230;</p>
<p>Get rid of the first two years.</p>
<p>My classrooms are empty.  Everybody just listens to the lectures and reads review books.  A good Kaplan course would teach me more than most of my professors and cost way less.  Why pay tens of thousands of dollars for this?  </p>
<p>Solution:<br />
1.) Accepted to medical school.<br />
2.) One or Two years to study for USMLE.<br />
3.) When you pass the step, you begin your clinical training.</p>
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		<title>By: Deaner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Hoover.  I had no idea this was up here. Given that I am working my ass off in medical school, contrary to what the responders implied above, I don&#039;t have much time to browse the web.  Honestly, I have gained a new appreciation for you in that it makes you extremely vulnerable to write on here. Being in medical school makes you subject to enough judgment and presumptions than to put your motivations on a page and let people tear you apart. 

Here is the thing.  Hoover didn&#039;t write this blog. I wrote this blog.  I want to be a doctor. With all my heart I want to be a doctor. I want to go into primary care. I want to work abroad and in a community hospital here. I want to be a faculty physician because I am devoted to changing medical education before our system falls apart.  As some of you may or may not know, we are in a health crisis.  Less than 5% of medical students want to go into primary care.  Our emergency rooms are full and our bills aren&#039;t being paid.  The solution to this, starts in medical education. We need to start focusing on how a medical career can be fulfilling and, yes, tolerable because money doesn&#039;t drive this ship anymore. We need to stop tearing each other apart, focusing on the faults of the new generation and we need to focus on patients.  Why? Because if we don&#039;t fix medicine, starting here, we are going to have a country full of sick (poor) people.  (Though I do not presume that you care...) 

I work hard. I spend long hours at the hospital. I don&#039;t convince myself I should leave for some &quot;new-agey&quot; understanding of mental health. In fact, my evaluations are shining despite my commitment to take care of myself and not kiss ass. I respect the places where I am being taught and am grateful to all hell for the people who take interest in teaching. I ask questions. But I sleep enough to wake up in the morning and feel decently about getting back to the hospital. 

Work-a-holic doctors are one thing.  I suspect I will be one as soon as I am able. I mean, I want to work with populations who have no one else on their side, so I&#039;d be fooling myself if I didn&#039;t think I would be.  I love medicine.  This doesn&#039;t bother me. I respect the hell out of someone who loves their job. This is why I am doing this. 

Medical school is a different thing all together. To spend hours upon hours of inefficient, ineffective time at the hospital where no one looks in your direction or bothers to answer questions.  Unacceptable.  The new generation will NOT tolerate mistreatment.  It seems this is a lost concept on older generations who just sucked it up and kissed ass to get through the grueling time that is medical school. But there was more to look forward to after they got through it: Good pay, societal respect, practicing evidence-based medicine without always thinking about CYA. Even primary care was a medical profession of dignity, unlike now where the other in the field are disrespectful and half your time is spent dealing with the system. 

So yes.  Things need to change. Medicine is taking on a new name and medical education needs to change with it.  If not for the sake of future physicians, but for the sake of patients and, moreover, for the sake of an unhealthy society.  

If you disagree. Wake up. Turn on the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Hoover.  I had no idea this was up here. Given that I am working my ass off in medical school, contrary to what the responders implied above, I don&#8217;t have much time to browse the web.  Honestly, I have gained a new appreciation for you in that it makes you extremely vulnerable to write on here. Being in medical school makes you subject to enough judgment and presumptions than to put your motivations on a page and let people tear you apart. </p>
<p>Here is the thing.  Hoover didn&#8217;t write this blog. I wrote this blog.  I want to be a doctor. With all my heart I want to be a doctor. I want to go into primary care. I want to work abroad and in a community hospital here. I want to be a faculty physician because I am devoted to changing medical education before our system falls apart.  As some of you may or may not know, we are in a health crisis.  Less than 5% of medical students want to go into primary care.  Our emergency rooms are full and our bills aren&#8217;t being paid.  The solution to this, starts in medical education. We need to start focusing on how a medical career can be fulfilling and, yes, tolerable because money doesn&#8217;t drive this ship anymore. We need to stop tearing each other apart, focusing on the faults of the new generation and we need to focus on patients.  Why? Because if we don&#8217;t fix medicine, starting here, we are going to have a country full of sick (poor) people.  (Though I do not presume that you care&#8230;) </p>
<p>I work hard. I spend long hours at the hospital. I don&#8217;t convince myself I should leave for some &#8220;new-agey&#8221; understanding of mental health. In fact, my evaluations are shining despite my commitment to take care of myself and not kiss ass. I respect the places where I am being taught and am grateful to all hell for the people who take interest in teaching. I ask questions. But I sleep enough to wake up in the morning and feel decently about getting back to the hospital. </p>
<p>Work-a-holic doctors are one thing.  I suspect I will be one as soon as I am able. I mean, I want to work with populations who have no one else on their side, so I&#8217;d be fooling myself if I didn&#8217;t think I would be.  I love medicine.  This doesn&#8217;t bother me. I respect the hell out of someone who loves their job. This is why I am doing this. </p>
<p>Medical school is a different thing all together. To spend hours upon hours of inefficient, ineffective time at the hospital where no one looks in your direction or bothers to answer questions.  Unacceptable.  The new generation will NOT tolerate mistreatment.  It seems this is a lost concept on older generations who just sucked it up and kissed ass to get through the grueling time that is medical school. But there was more to look forward to after they got through it: Good pay, societal respect, practicing evidence-based medicine without always thinking about CYA. Even primary care was a medical profession of dignity, unlike now where the other in the field are disrespectful and half your time is spent dealing with the system. </p>
<p>So yes.  Things need to change. Medicine is taking on a new name and medical education needs to change with it.  If not for the sake of future physicians, but for the sake of patients and, moreover, for the sake of an unhealthy society.  </p>
<p>If you disagree. Wake up. Turn on the news.</p>
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