So You Want To Write?
I’ve gotten a few requests for writers through the comments and contact form here at MSH. Since I’ve been out of the game for so long now, this is really the only way others will benefit from hearing the truth about medical training.
People want to hear from those that are in the trenches. I want to hear from you guys that are fucking fed up with medical training and the way you’re treated.
Let’s make this the official thread if you want to write for this site. It gets a nice amount of traffic and your work will be read. All I ask is that you’re a current medical student or resident and can share some of your experiences with thousands of readers each week.
So, hit up the comments on this post and I promise I’ll get back to you if you want to write for this site.
Hoover,
You are a source of inspiration and unfettered truth in a world of retard premeds and medical school bureaucracy. I found the light by accident one day when perusing the SDN forum — which is a cesspool of diarrhea, vomit, AIDs, pre-meds, and moderators with no lives all intertwined together in a big orgy of runny nasty fluids and rectal exams.
You must be our savior Hoover. So will you be our our Messiah,our prophet if you will, against this horrible system of buttmunching and cocksucking that exists throughout this fagocracy?
And you need to start updating your website more you asshole. Put ads on it so you can make money on it or whatever, and let the truth continue to be heard!
Yours Truly,
A Gay Bear Jew Named Desire
Also, I know how to write, count me in.
Angry medic. Third year medical student out of a five year course (so just started my ‘firms’/clerkships) in England are realising what a waste of time it is. My task for the day that involved me bustin my balls since age 15, GCSEs, A levels, two years of preclinical medicine? Uncatching the end of a roll of sellotape.
I have more stories than I can shake a stick at!
why are you in Britain? Why don’t you go to AMerica to make more money?
~
Fag
They make good money in England, Americans think that because its “the United States” that they are the best paid in the world when in fact in some other countries, people do as well if not more than the US…specially specialties.
For example, even in a third world country like Mexico, a certified plastic surgeon (consider also that they don’t have to do the bullshit premed nor any college as in here the US) they can make as much as a plastic surgeon in the US, and even more with a private clinic.
Read this blog for salary comparisons between nations, America still beats the rest even though the taxes suck dick:
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/how-much-do-doctors-in-other-countries-make/
> (consider also that they don’t have to do the bullshit premed nor any college as in here the US)
I’m glad you mentioned that. No where else in Europe or Asia do they require students to go through 4 years of a completely unrelated bullshit.
And the amount of loopholes to “prove” yourself is ridiculous.
My girlfriend who has a 3.3 gpa and a 37 MCAT (bit younger than me) got rejected from Albany Med the other day.
This is Albany Med for crying out loud.
I know a couple of members on the ADCOM committee and some of the people they’ve accepted are just downright stupid or had connections with the school.
Of course you may think the 3.3 gpa is low, but she was an ENGINEERING major.
Of course when you take advanced thermodynamics and quantum mechanics etc you’re going to get strings of Bs left and right.
They told her her gpa wasn’t strong enough.
Are you fucking kidding me?
She wasn’t some dumbfuck psychology major with a C in orgo and a bunch of A in pseudoscience or a communications major.
The game is so unbalanced that it’s just better to go to community college and get easy As and then transfer out and finish it at some cheap state school.
Would’ve enjoyed college a lot more too that way.
But anyways,
This is why medical schools and the medical insurance industry needs to be reformed as part of health care reform.
First of all, the AMA monopoly on medical school formation needs to be revoked. Monopolies are illegal and un-american and should be crushed wherever they appear. One need only look at the exorbitant fees that they charge on the MCAT and USMLEs for instance. The AMA has artificially limited the supply of doctors for years in a blatant attempt to manipulate the market. We need a lot more schools training a lot more medical practitioners at all levels.
Second, we need to get medical school tuition under control by whatever means necessary. Flagship public schools like UC Berkeley have produced some of best graduate students in the world while keeping tuition very low. We should not be saddling potential doctors with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, or dissuading people from pursuing a career in medicine due to their fear of this debt.
Third, we need to regulate the insurance industry and get rid of the completely out-of-control malpractice situation in this county. Doctors currently require very high salaries because they have to pay so much in needless malpractice insurance.
Get rid of that and we can actually make some progress that makes sense for all.
Actually you’re right that specialists in other countries make good money,
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/15/business/economy/GPpay.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/15/business/economy/crsdoctors.jpg
Apparently, in the first graph, in the US they make 150k a year compared to Britain which is 110K. But how are taxes between the two (i.e. net income after taxes?).
HOWEVER, if you check out the second link, you’ll find that specialists in the Netherlands and Australia make $23,000 and $17,000 more than specialists in America.
UK specialists average 150k though.
Let’s notforget that . in Western Europe, medical schools are free, pay is lower in studies. But do remember in europe doctors work at most..60 hours a week and have amazing vacations. if any of you go to paris or vienna or any other european city, you’ll notice that everything is closed by 5:30PM so the life style is pretty good in Europe.
Physician compensation in many socialized countries is great, they do really well when you figure in that their education is taken care of, they work less hours, and they don’t get sued (France and Germany are exceptions). However this health care reform bill doesn’t give us any of these perks. We might get them eventually 10-15 years down the line when people finally start realizing that it doesn’t make financial sense to become a doctor. However our generation of med. students will probably be screwed as the transition is made.
Because I’m British? But I do plan on doing gas in America, plan on doing Step 1 in the summer.
Come check out the new forum, MDUnderground. I think you’ll like it.
Hi Hoover,
I am returning here just to tell you that I will be thrown out of my residency with only lousy 1 year left. Nowadays, I am trying to find another residency but they are spoiled and want to only take those who wish to “relocate for geographic reasons.” I was looking for other options, willing even to get an alternative degree for a different profession, however, nobody seems to prefer medical doctors. One online MBA program actually asks about the highest education level, without even a “doctor” option, only “master’s” as the highest. I just want to say that it sucks ass that people who don’t finish high school get GEDs and are praised as heroes, while those who don’t finish residency are thrown out on the street and looked at as pariahs.
Sucks to be you.
You can work for the military as a GMO (general military officer). You’d probably be a paper pusher, make around 90-100k a year, and after 20 years of service you’d get a pension with 50% income of the average of the last 3 years that you worked for them. You can also transfer that time from the military to the federal or state government too though they may have longer time requirements that you have to work for them.
You should also consider considering trying to finish the residency at some other place. Try hard and try often. Don’t give up and apply everywhere.
Give good reasons why you fucked up. Make up shit and make it convincing if need be. Your fiancee died of cancer or you lost your best friend to diarrhea can help. Yeah, it sounds fucked up, but when you’re in a shitty situation, sometimes you have to make up shit.
But maybe you really are a shitty doctor and I wouldn’t want you practicing on me or anybody else for the matter if you were really bad.
Go into something that you won’t kill someone though will ya? And don’t take it the wrong way, doesn’t mean you’re incompetent or a retard.
Workout, eat right, be informed, take some time off to reflect, make friends, be a happier person, hang out with your family again, and become mentally “whole” again — this may take 5-6 months or maybe even a year to three or four.
Whatever is the case, just make sure you’re mentally whole and prepared for the next step.
And don’t waste your time with any more degrees. An MBA, law school degree, etc. are going to add to your debt and are in general a waste of time and money. You won’t even get a job. The fact that you don’t even know this show sthat you’re grossly ignorant about the world outside of medicine.
Start reading about economics, maybe take some classes in personal finance, micro and macroeconomics, and stay on top of things.
You lose if you don’t otherwise.
I’m a M1 in my second semester and just got done with my block 1 exams. Every single day my desire to quit med school becomes greater but I’m just trying to bear it out as of now. Anyway, I’d like to write for this site.
-AK
I’d like to write. I hate medical school, I’m a third year, and all the bullshit they told us isn’t true. Clerkships suck, people treat you like ass, and there really isn’t anything to look forward too. I’d like to write about, nurses, crappy preceptors/attendings, 3rd year, sexual harrassment, and general bullshit.
Thanks
I’m a resident in my first year of Hell, but I march to the beat of my own drummer and am free from the evil claws of debt. Therefore, I have no fear in pissing people off.
If you want me to write for your website(and you should), its gonna cost you.
Getting fucked over twice, once getting into medical school, once getting into residency because of the stupid bureaucracy that is behind admissions and the match makes me want to broadcast it. Kind of like the scientologists trying to get out.
Hey whats up everyone. Went to a caribbean med school (hell) and transferred into a med school in Puerto Rico as an MS III. Im going to be honest here… I love studying medicine… I just hate having to kiss ass and deal with some docs who fit into the deuche bag category. Im going into pathology so that I can still enjoy the fruits of life. As my name implies, I like mothers so don’t introduce me to yours.. as a matter of fact, Im on a date with your mother at this very moment. What else… I love walks on the beach, poetry, and crying during chick flicks…
Like always, droppin’ it like its hot…
I’m a medical school in Canada and feel like someone shat all over my soul. I am not being taught to educate ignorant patients, but rather to be a glorified customer sales agent who is forced to take shit from hillbilly yokels, watch tards smoke and drink their way through pregnancies, and watch my tax dollars siphon into the intravenous for a half brain-dead 95 year-old coot whose daughter wants her alive for another week. And I can’t do shit about it. The majority of my classmates think I’m insensitive and as a result I’m seldom allowed to voice my true opinion in group discussions without receiving the swift brunt of a multi-person counter-offensive. I painstakingly have to listen as their mouths spew verbal sewage littered with ethical idealism reminiscent of Hollywood movies, likely as a result of a sheltered upper-middle class suburbian upbringing.
I’d like to write. Promise I won’t include so many convoluted run-on sentences
embarrassing that I already said “I am a medical school”
student. student.
So there’s like a dozen folks who want to write, great. So write something and then submit it to him, guys, or I’ll have to do it. “Sure, I’m tired and bitter and think I’m funny, too, hur hur” isn’t a whole lot to work with.