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		<title>MSH Specialty Review: General Surgery</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Next up in the MSH Specialty Review Series is general surgery. I&#8217;m now going to begin each review with a summary that can be easily scanned for important information.
Summary Review
Residency Training Information

5 year residency
80+ hour work weeks
Expect around q4 call

General Surgery Trends

Overall interest declining
Lifestyle cited as top reason
Despite this, above-average board scores needed to secure [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.medschoolhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/specialtyselection.gif" alt="Specialty Selection" style="border: medium none ; float: left; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-top: 10px" />Next up in the MSH Specialty Review Series is <strong>general surgery</strong>. I&#8217;m now going to begin each review with a summary that can be easily scanned for important information.</p>
<p><strong>Summary Review</strong></p>
<p><em>Residency Training Information</em></p>
<ul>
<li>5 year residency</li>
<li>80+ hour work weeks</li>
<li>Expect around q4 call</li>
</ul>
<p><em>General Surgery Trends</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Overall interest declining</li>
<li>Lifestyle cited as top reason</li>
<li>Despite this, above-average board scores needed to secure spot</li>
</ul>
<p><em>Post Residency Careers</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Job market looks good</li>
<li>Demand for surgeons is up as fewer enter the marketplace</li>
</ul>
<p><em>Salaries</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Salaries average at around $261,000 annually</li>
</ul>
<p><em>Lifestyle</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Overall considered &#8220;poor&#8221;</li>
<li>General surgeons reportedly worked an average of 60 hours per week</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Rating</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>3.5/10</li>
</ul>
<p><span id="more-70"></span><strong>Introduction</strong></p>
<p>Surgery is without a doubt one of the most demanding specialties that a medical student can choose. Interest in surgery has <a href="http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2004/june16/med-surgery-616.html" title="Surgery Interest Waning">decreased</a> to a low of 5.3 percent in 2002. Television shows such as <a href="http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/02/15/greys-anatomy-they-really-do-work-long-hours/">Grey&#8217;s Anatomy</a>, which frequently glamorize the surgical lifestyle, has the potential to pique interest in the surgical specialties once again. Some state that the 80 hour weekly work week implemented in 2003 has increased interest in surgery again.</p>
<p><strong>Residency Training Information</strong></p>
<p>Preparation for a practice in general surgery is 5 years. Expect an additional 2-3 years if you want to sub-specialize with a surgical fellowship. Average residency salaries start in the high $30,000 per year range, but given the number of hours you&#8217;ll be working, your average hourly wage will be lower than specialties that aren&#8217;t as demanding. General surgery participates in the regular NRMP match.</p>
<p>Residency work hours are grueling. Expect no less than 80 hours per week. In fact, it&#8217;s pretty safe to say that you&#8217;ll work over 80 hours and be expected to &#8220;fudge&#8221; the numbers if necessary. This is quite common from surgical residents that I have spoken to, and while not something that will be exposed except on rare occasions, is probably more common than not.</p>
<p>Call while in residency will obviously vary by program, but q4 call would probably be a safe bet for programs across the board.</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6VHS-4GW41CV-3&amp;_user=10&amp;_coverDate=09%2F30%2F2005&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=cde68bffc7b0b8c64e39d653879d0e11">this study</a>, an average of 2753 hours or 14.3% of 19,200 hours (5 years of 80-hour work weeks) were spent as a chief surgeon, 272 hours as an assistant, and another 938 hours for immediate preoperative and postoperative attendance. The average total time for operative training was 3963 hours or 20.6% of 5 years of 80-hour weeks (16.5 h/wk).</p>
<p>Keep in mind that working residents past the 80 hour work week will certainly vary by program. I hope you&#8217;re reading this review for the real deal. I won&#8217;t lie and say that you won&#8217;t work over 80 hours. I honestly believe that as a surgery resident, you will.</p>
<p><strong>General Surgery Trends</strong></p>
<p>Based on my experiences and research overall interest in surgery is declining, and lifestyle is the top reason cited. Today&#8217;s medical student is a smarter medical student &#8211; looking towards a healthy life and reasonable work hours. This is a very good change, and is something that surgical residency program directors need to take into consideration.</p>
<p>However, those students genuinely interested in surgery throw lifestyle out of the window. The fact is that somebody has to do it &#8211; I&#8217;m just glad it&#8217;s not me. Despite the overall decline in interest, general surgery is still considered a competitive field, and above-average board scores and grades are generally required to secure a spot for residency.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to consider the opportunity cost that is given up when choosing surgery. Most residents won&#8217;t be ready to hit practice until 7-8 years down the road, as more and more physicians are choosing to go the fellowship route. Compare this with some of the less demanding specialties that require 3 years&#8217; worth of post-graduate training.</p>
<p><strong>Post Residency Careers</strong></p>
<p>The job availability for a general surgeon appears to currently look good. For example, a <a href="http://www.locumtenens.com/Physician-Jobs/Job-Results/General-Surgery-54/" title="general surgery job search">general surgery job search</a> at <a href="http://www.locumtenens.com" title="Locum Tenens">Locum Tenens</a> shows over 1500 results from all over the country.</p>
<p>Residents do <a href="http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=340752">report getting several job offers</a> throughout their residency career. Be wary of promises of guaranteed income, however. Most income guarantees are only until you get on your feet, and typically for a year or two at most.</p>
<p>The post-residency job availability is probably due to the overall decrease in demand for careers in general surgery altogether. With fewer surgeons being trained each year, there will be a natural increase in available jobs as demand for surgical procedures <a href="http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2004/june16/med-surgery-616.html">remains unchanged</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;There is a concern,&#8221; said Brundage. &#8220;Surgery is a highly valuable commodity and as the numbers of surgeons are on the decline, access to surgical care will be more difficult. Even at this time in the United States, there are waiting lists of six to eight months for some non-emergency surgical procedures. Rural communities and inner cities are particularly underserved. As the numbers of surgeons decline, there is bound to be an even more pronounced shortage of surgeons.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Nevertheless, the promise of increased jobs is certainly a trade off for lifestyle should you choose a career path down the surgical road.</p>
<p><strong>Salaries</strong></p>
<p>Salaries for general surgeons are above average for medical specialties. Using salary data from 2 <a href="http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/physician-salaries.htm">different</a> <a href="http://merritthawkins.com/pdf/2006_incentive_survey.pdf">sources</a>, we see salaries ranging from a low of $150,000 annually to a high of $520,000 annually reported. The averages are more in line of what we need to be looking at, and across the two data sources I have a calculated average of $261,000.</p>
<p>As far as salary trends go, the low-end salaries actually decreased from 2002 to 2006, while average salaries increased during the same time period. This is probably due to the reporting of higher salaries on the high end of the spectrum, bringing the average back into line.</p>
<p>If the shortage of general surgeons continues, expect increases in salaries as practices attempt to recruit more surgeons. It&#8217;s unclear at this point whether salary increases will be enough to entice medical students to pursue general surgery, but given comparable salaries in other medical specialties with less demands, some more drastic changes may be required.</p>
<p><strong>Lifestyle</strong></p>
<p>The lifestyle of a surgeon is considered poor by today&#8217;s medical students. In fact, the number three reported reason for <a href="http://www.locumtenens.com/surgery-careers/2006-LT-General-Surgery-Salary-Survey.aspx">dissatisfaction with general surgery</a> was cited as &#8220;lifestyle issues&#8221; by practicing general surgeons today. This was behind reimbursement and medical liability issues, respectively.</p>
<p>In general, practicing general surgeons work unpredictable hours and average <a href="http://www.medfriends.org/specialty_hours_worked.htm">60 hours per week</a> in actual practice. These average work hours were close to the top of the list, exceeded only by OB/GYN Anesthesiology, and Urology. Expect rounding on your patients both pre- and post-op, as well as a rigorous schedule in the OR. Call will depend upon your employment situation.</p>
<p>Interestingly, <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6VHS-4FWNN15-D&amp;_user=10&amp;_coverDate=04%2F30%2F2005&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=a7c33eae8c36871822505ac923551189">spouses of general surgeons</a> were found to be the major decision makers at home as well less likely to work outside of the home. Further, they were less likely to give credit to the general surgeon for contributing to household duties and childcare. Probably a result of less family time on the part of the general surgeon, but these results are interesting and something I ran across during my research.</p>
<p><strong>Final Thoughts</strong></p>
<p>To be a surgeon for the remainder of your working life will take many sacrifices, many involving your personal and family life. The salary of a general surgeon is above average for medical specialties, but certainly involves trading a great deal of time for that money.</p>
<p>Post-op patients are frequently very sick, and changing wound dressings or swabbing wound discharge might not be as appealing to you after 20 years of practice. Of course, there&#8217;s always the question &#8220;have you passed gas or stool today, Mr. Smith?&#8221;</p>
<p>You will be at an increased risk for infectious disease exposure, and operating on patients who cannot pay for services rendered will be somewhat common depending upon your practice situation.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if the only place you feel at home is the OR, then a career in surgery may be for you. Surgeons typically enjoy working with their hands, and it is often considered a more &#8220;procedural&#8221; versus &#8220;cerebral&#8221; specialty. If you enjoy doing procedures, suturing, and generally seeing patients improve after a case, then you just might be cut out to be a surgeon.</p>
<p>The job market looks promising for residents that are finishing up training in general surgery, and I expect for that to continue as fewer general surgeons enter the job marketplace.</p>
<p><em>At the end of each review, I’m going to break it down into two factors: Lifestyle and Salary. The idea is to find the best combination of these two factors. In my opinion, that is the <strong>perfect specialty</strong>.</em></p>
<p><strong>Final Rating:</strong></p>
<p>Lifestyle: 0/10<br />
Salary: 7/10<br />
<strong>Average: 3.5/10</strong></p>
<p><strong>Resources</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.locumtenens.com/surgery-careers/2006-LT-General-Surgery-Salary-Survey.aspx">Locum Tenens 2006 General Surgery Salary Survey</a></li>
<li><a href="http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2004/june16/med-surgery-616.html">Surgery career lifestyle unappealing to medical students, research reveals</a></li>
<li><a href="http://forums.studentdoctor.net/forumdisplay.php?f=40">Student Doctor Surgery Forums</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6VHS-4GW41CV-3&amp;_user=10&amp;_coverDate=09%2F30%2F2005&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=cde68bffc7b0b8c64e39d653879d0e11">How much time do surgical residents need to learn operative surgery?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.locumtenens.com/">Locum Tenens</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/physician-salaries.htm">Physician Salaries</a></li>
<li><a href="http://merritthawkins.com/pdf/2006_incentive_survey.pdf">2006 Review of Physician Recruitment Incentives</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.medfriends.org/specialty_hours_worked.htm">Average Hours Worked By Specialty</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6VHS-4FWNN15-D&amp;_user=10&amp;_coverDate=04%2F30%2F2005&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=a7c33eae8c36871822505ac923551189">Gender differences among spouses of surgeons</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.facs.org/">American College of Surgeons</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.facs.org/education/essentials.pdf">Successfully Navigating the First Year of Surgical Residency: Essentials for Medical Students and PGY-1 Residents</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Other Specialty Reviews</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/02/17/msh-specialty-selection-pediatrics/">Pediatrics</a></li>
</ul>
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		<title>MSH Specialty Selection: Pediatrics</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Hoover</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;re going to kick of the MSH Specialty Selection Series with a look into Pediatrics. Since I haven&#8217;t really given you the lowdown on the specialty selection series, here&#8217;s a little introduction.
I want to look at specialties with regards to average salaries, hours worked weekly, overall lifestyle factors, physician satisfaction, and residency training requirements. I&#8217;ll [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src='http://www.medschoolhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/specialtyselection.gif' alt='Specialty Selection' style="border: none; float: left; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 15px;" />We&#8217;re going to kick of the MSH Specialty Selection Series with a look into <strong>Pediatrics</strong>. Since I haven&#8217;t really given you the lowdown on the specialty selection series, here&#8217;s a little introduction.</p>
<p>I want to look at specialties with regards to average salaries, hours worked weekly, overall lifestyle factors, physician satisfaction, and residency training requirements. I&#8217;ll be using survey information that can be freely found on the net as well as my personal experiences while rotating through these specialties and contact with my friends who are now residents. I personally know someone from most of the major specialties. If I have any questions, I&#8217;ll be sure to ask them so that I can give you guys a thorough review of the specialty. Unfortunately, some of the salary information is slightly dated, but it will still give you an idea of what to expect.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to cover all of the popular specialties, but probably won&#8217;t get too much into fellowships, as these are far down the road from where most of you guys are anyway. <strong>If you&#8217;d like to request a specialty review, please comment in this post and let me know</strong>.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s get a closer look into <strong>Pediatrics</strong>.</p>
<p><span id="more-58"></span></p>
<p><strong>Introduction</strong></p>
<p>Pediatrics appeals to a wide variety of students, particularly because it&#8217;s simply primary care for kids. I don&#8217;t know how many times I&#8217;ve heard the phrase &#8220;I like working with kids, but not so much adults.&#8221; Although I&#8217;m not fond enough of kids to work with them on a daily basis for the rest of my life, I will say that I&#8217;d rather work with them than adults.</p>
<p>This is a double-edged sword, however. In order to work with kids, you&#8217;re going to have work with adults &#8211; namely the patient&#8217;s parents. Know-it-all soccer moms who spend way too much time researching things on the net can be a royal pain in the ass.</p>
<p><strong>Residency Training Information</strong></p>
<p>Post-graduate residency training in pediatrics is 3 years for general practice. The average starting salary for first year residents is on-par with other specialties, hovering in the high $30,000 per year range.</p>
<p>You can expect to work pretty damn close to the maximum 80 hours per week during your residency in pediatrics. This is especially true while on any inpatient rotation. Since inpatient medicine will make up a large proportion of your residency years, expect to be working a fair amount. While on outpatient rotations, however, you&#8217;ll probably be working something a bit more in line with reasonable work hours.</p>
<p><strong>Pediatric Trends</strong></p>
<p>As expected, there is an increasing number of female residents that choose to enter pediatrics. This was certainly the trend that I saw from my class, and it is something that was <a href="http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/112/4/787" title="Journal of Pediatrics">seen nationwide from 1997-2002</a>. The percentage of female residents increased to a high of 69% in 2002. There are fewer International Medical Graduates entering the specialty, probably due to increased overall competitiveness and the demand for U.S. graduates in general.</p>
<p>Educational debt increased for residents from $64,070 in 1997 to $87,539 in 2002 while starting salaries for physicians just out of residency has been slightly decreasing.</p>
<p><strong>Post Residency Careers</strong></p>
<p>Across the board, pediatrics has seen a decrease in the number of residents who choose to enter general pediatrics. It&#8217;s no wonder, since primary care is probably one of the poorest choices of specialties in my opinion. On a related note, the number of available positions for general practitioners has also decreased. Instead, residents chose to pursue a fellowship and receive niche training as well as higher salaries. Fewer residents also chose to stay away from rural areas. Rural practice typically means longer work hours. The pay does sometimes scale, but people are finally beginning to realize the value of their free time.</p>
<p><strong>Salaries</strong></p>
<p>Surprisingly, starting salaries actually decreased from 1997 to 2002, finishing up at $99,123. I&#8217;ve always known that pediatrics was one of the lower-paying specialties of medicine, but I was actually shocked to learn that salaries have decreased instead of remaining closer to inflation that was seen over the same time period. I haven&#8217;t been able to find any salary information that&#8217;s closer to 2006-2007, but it&#8217;s the trend that you guys need to be aware of. Keep in mind that trends such as these typically do not correct overnight, and may continue for 10 years or more before any changes can be seen.</p>
<p>Based on <a href="http://www.studentdoc.com/pediatrics-salary.html" title="Pediatrics Salary">this 1998 salary survey</a>, we see a low of $111,113 with average salaries of $143,754. As you can see, there are some significant differences in data. Take what you read here with a grain of salt and remember to watch the trend.</p>
<p>A significant increase in salaries was seen for <strong>hospitalists</strong>, while the number of residents who took hospitalist positions decreased slightly from 1997-2002. This is important to note as I believe hospitalist employment is the next wave. Think about it &#8211; you get set shifts with a decent salary. Once your shift ends, somebody else picks up where you left off and you leave work at work. Hospitalist employment is part of what I like to refer to as &#8220;Medicine 2.0.&#8221; Expect to see more of this in the future.</p>
<p><strong>Lifestyle</strong></p>
<p>Overall lifestyle for practicing pediatricians after residency is average. Especially if you&#8217;re doing outpatient medicine, you&#8217;ll pretty much practice around clinic hours. Don&#8217;t expect a normal 9-5, however. After the clinic shuts down you&#8217;ll be busy for another hour or two getting your paperwork finished up. If you decide to see your clinic patients if and when they&#8217;re admitted to the hospital, expect to work an additional one to two hours in the morning rounding on those patients. This is pretty standard for all primary care outpatient practices.</p>
<p>One thing that I have noticed while working with pediatricians on my student rotations is that they seem happier than most docs. I also experienced this with residents. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s working with kids or that they just like what they&#8217;re doing, but pediatric residents are typically a less hardcore breed as compared to medicine or surgery physicians and residents. This no doubt correlates with a better lifestyle in general, if nothing more than better overall mental and physical health.</p>
<p>Most of the residents that I spoke with made time to exercise and spend time with the family. This is despite a rigorous work week while on inpatient rotations.</p>
<p><strong>MSH Final Thoughts</strong></p>
<p>Pediatrics is one of the lower-paying specialties, particularly if you want to stay in general practice. The lifestyle after residency is appealing, but the trade off will be a decreased salary as compared to other fields.</p>
<p>Working with kids has its benefits (such as healthier patients, not having to deal with drug overdose or homeless patients), but always remember that you&#8217;ll be working with the parents as much as the patient. Also, hearing crying kids all day may burn you out faster than you expect. If you absolutely love kids, then you were probably born to be a pediatrician. If not, you may want to look elsewhere.</p>
<p>The hospitalist&#8217;s role in caring for patients is increasing and will probably get more popular as more and more people realize that it offers a much better lifestyle with increased pay in most cases. Along the same lines, I think there will be plenty of opportunities for hospitalists as general practitioners opt out of seeing clinic patients that are admitted to the hospital.</p>
<p><em>At the end of each review, I&#8217;m going to break it down into two factors: Lifestyle and Salary. The idea is to find the best combination of these two factors. In my opinion, that is the <strong>perfect specialty</strong>.</em></p>
<p><strong>Final Rating:</strong></p>
<p>Lifestyle: 7/10<br />
Salary: 3/10<br />
<strong>Average: 5/10</strong></p>
<p>[<a href="http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/112/4/787" title="Pediatrics">Pediatrics</a>] Vol. 112 No. 4 October 2003, pp. 787-792<br />
[<a href="http://www.studentdoc.com/pediatrics-salary.html" title="Pediatrics Salary">Student Doc Pediatrics Salary Report</a>]</p>
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		<title>Upcoming: MedSchoolHell Specialty Selection</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the very near future, I&#8217;m planning on outlining each <strong>medical specialty</strong> and why it&#8217;s a good or bad choice for the rest of your life&#8217;s work. In traditional MSH flare, I&#8217;ll focus mainly on lifestyle and monetization options. Although the reviews will be my opinion, they&#8217;ll be based on my experiences as a medical student as well as continued contact with my classmates as they progress through residency. Look for the first specialty review sometimes this week or weekend.</p>
<p>Edit: The <a href="http://www.medschoolhell.com/2007/02/17/msh-specialty-selection-pediatrics/" title="pediatrics">pediatrics review</a> is up.</p>
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